In the mean time....

My Dad's Birthday would have been next Tuesday. Veterans Day. He would have been 82 years old. I am currently working on a blog that attempts to include all the best of our trip to Ireland. I plan to post all or most of on next Tuesday in his memory.

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In the mean time I offer you all this photo:

Greenmount Morning.
(This is really nice as a desktop background....)

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And to my Siblings and Cousins I submit this:

Speculating on directions for future research:

Traditional Old Irish and Scotish Naming Patterns:

1st son was named after the father's father.
2nd son was named after the mother's father.
3rd son was named after the father.
4th son was named after the father's eldest brother.

1st daughter was named after the mother's mother.
2nd daughter was named after the father's mother.
3rd daughter was named after the mother.
4th daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister.

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The birth order of the Alexander Gilmour and Jane Glenn's children were as follows:

Robert: 1833 or 35

Eliza: 1838

Anne: 1839

James: 1840

John: 1842

Alexander (jr) 1846

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It appears that for the most part Alexander and Jane followed the traditional pattern for naming their children with the obvious exception of John and Alexander. If I were to do some speculating based on this data, perhaps there was an Alexander who died in childbirth and they named the next male son after Alexander's Father's eldest brother? This seems the most likely scenario to me. Having fulfilled the requirements thus far they would have been free to name the next male again after the Father: Alexander.

Assuming that the pattern holds at least partially true, Alexander's Father's name should be Robert, Alexander's Mother's name should be Anne. Hence: Jane's Father's name should be James and Jane's Mother's name should be Elisabeth.

There was no 3rd or 4th daughter so we can not assume any information from here.

Assuming that Alexander S. was in reality a 5th son, then we can postulate that John was the name of Alexander's Uncle John, who would have been named for Alexander's Father Robert's Father. Making the speculative Robert's Father's name John?

There is a Samuel Glenn in the Lower Cumber Church Graveyard which would account for Alexander "S" and I will speculate very broadly here that it may mean that Jane's Father's eldest brother's name may have been Samuel making it possible that Jane's Father's Father may also have been named Samuel.

This may or may not help in future research. these patterns were not locked in and should at least be kept in mind as a flexible rather than hard and fast rule.

(:Markle:)
"Smilin' on the inside
And on the outside!"

06/Nov/08